Sunday, April 10, 2011

The Parents We Were Never Going To Be

We are stellar parents! When he asks for the computer, we say “no” and give him a puzzle. When he asks for the computer again we give it to him. And he procedes to play video games for two hours. And we load him up on Coke, chocolate and candy. We are the parents we said we would never be! And someday we won’t. (Remind me!) But for now we have a little guy that we get to spend two hours with a day, we don’t have a common language (except the video games), and we are leaving after tomorrow’s visit only to return in a week or so and expect him to stand in front of a judge in court and tell the judge he wants us to be his parents, to move to American, and to learn to speak English (and leave everything he has ever known – even if what he’s known all of his life is not better than what we have to offer, it is still hard to leave). So….we give him the computer, Coke, chocolate, and candy. And we’ll do it again tomorrow for our last visit before we leave!
For now, our relationship is developing as well as can be expected without any way to talk to our son. He is genuinely happy to see us when we arrive and was spotted watching us through the window as we left the orphanage yesterday. He appears to be quite smart – very logical in his thinking. Otherwise, he seems to be your typical boy. He is PERFECT!
Tomorrow night we will return to Kyiv. We will have a second SDA appointment and request a referral to meet our daughter. It will be hard to leave our son but we are excited out of our minds to see our daughter!! I can’t even come up with the words for how excited we are to see her! The plan is to obtain our referral for her and be to her region before the end of the week. We don’t have much wiggle room; everything needs to pretty much fall into place perfectly for this to happen.
As always seems to be the case, there is bureaucratic disruption here that might threaten our proceedings. I don’t really know much about it except that it appears that the change in division of the Ukrainian government that handles adoptions that was voted to be changed a few months ago is now finally taking place. I don’t know what this means to us….. We pray (it means) nothing. But there’s always that looming possibility…
Otherwise, we are ready to leave this region. No offense to the locals as no one has done anything to make us not feel welcome but we have been somewhat out of sorts since we arrived. I have not been feeling well and the weather has been cold, raining, and windy. I don’t know how to describe the surrounding except to say it is dark and depressing. I don’t know for sure, but this area appears to be severely impoverished. It is very likely that it is not as bad as it looks. Occasionally there are well-kept or new buildings but they are always completely surrounded by what would be classified as the slums in America. I can't make heads or tails or it but it certainly makes me appreciate how privileged my life really is.
The internet situation has not improved. I sometimes (but not reliably) get email. I cannot send or respond to email. Posting a status update on facebook or sharing my blog post takes no less than an hour. It’s excruciating. But I guess it gives me something to do…
In closing, I can’t tell you how much your prayers and encouragement mean to us. We are not necessarily great foreigners (well, who would be in the kind of weather we have had?). I wish I could say we are enjoying the culture but we’re really just not (at least not here in this region). Mostly, we are keeping our eye on the prize. Your sharing our journey with us truly helps! Thank you and God bless…

Friday, April 8, 2011

Meeting Our Son!!

We’ve not had good internet luck since we arrived in our son’s region, so I was not able to blog yesterday. Occasionally I can get on facebook, but it’s usually pretty brief and unreliable and mostly, in the middle of posting an update or comment, I lose my connection. We are told this issue will be corrected this evening, so hopefully I can post this blog.

As for the last two days, ummm, today is Friday? Yes, I think so. The days are already running together. And I cannot remember what I included in my last blog (and I cannot access it without internet). So I will start with the important part. Yesterday, our facilitator took us to our son’s orphanage where we met with several “officials”, some from the local government and some from the orphanage. We were told about our son’s social & medical history. In short we were told he is healthy and smart (good in school).
The whole meeting is like an out-of-body experience. Whoever is speaking looks right at you and rattles off what seems like a thousand words a minute in Russian. The whole time I’m thinking “how on earth is our facilitator going to remember everything this person is saying?”. And when they’re done speaking, we look at our facilitator and in about 10 words, she tells us what the person speaking in Russian said. Anyway, after about 15 minutes of them informing us about our son, they ask us if we would like to meet him. Uh??? Da!! So they go to get him.
It is my understanding that until they went to get him to meet us, he knew nothing of us. We weren’t sure if he would know about us or not because we have written to him several times but our facilitator kinda indicated it is unlikely he was given our letters. I’m sure there’s a perfectly good rationale for their decision to do this (and maybe they held the letters and will give them to him sometime before he leaves the orphanage, who knows?). This is kind of disheartening to us, but again, whatever their reasoning, we trust it is in his best interest.
So anyway, on to the good part. All of the sudden, there he is! He walks right in the room. And just like when we met our daughter for the first time last summer, I think to myself “this child looks so perfect & so breakable”. And I say to God “if you say so” (meaning: if you entrust this child to me, who am I to reject the privilege and responsibility?). And it appears as though our son is being told about who we are and why we are here for the first time. As they are speaking to him, the corner of the table is kind of between us, so I reach out and shake his little porcelain hand. And about the same time, it appears as though he puts it all together and he simply lights up and as Richard reaches out to shake his hand, our son steps in and hugs him. And I am bursting! Thinking I am not going to survive meeting this child! And I’m gonna cry any second now but I don’t want to scare my kid off first thing!! And I certainly don’t want to look like a lunatic in front of all of these important people who really need to believe I am sane so that they allow me to take this child to be my own. So I pretty much hold it together (on the outside). And I got my own hug soon enough. And I think to myself “my children are so tiny (both of them!) please don’t let me break them!” Really, he looks breakable! And he’s adorable with piercing blue eyes! He really is a beautiful child.

We spend the next hour or so getting to know each other through our facilitator interpreting. We look through the picture book we brought him (fyi: google translator translates “silly” in English to “stupid” in Russian, so our dog now has something to prove – that he is NOT stupid; but simply “silly”!). Honestly, at this point, our son seems a little glassy eyed. He is pretty shy & quiet but considering the magnitude of what has just happened to him and how his world has just changed in what seems to him like an instant, you can imagine his little processor is working overtime! He warms up to the iPad (mostly playing Cut the Rope which he teaches himself on the fly) very quickly and is suddenly a typical kid! And we are nearly invisible. But he did tell our facilitator that at Christmas time he asked Santa for a Momma and Poppa. I wonder if he thinks we’re a little late…
We couldn’t have asked for anything more during our first time together! I do notice that occasionally he puts down the iPad and looks at his photo book. We load him up with candy to share & part ways for the day.
Another family is also in the region and we joined them and our facilitator to celebrate them having had a favorable hearing earlier the same day and us meeting our son for the first time. Our facilitator told us this day was a religious holiday in Ukraine celebrating all that is love (I’m sure I got that all wrong but it sounds good so let’s go with it!), so we have a toast for all three!
Today we made our official application to adopt our son and our facilitator, after spending a little time with us and our son at the orphanage, left the region to return to submit our application in Kyiv. We will spend the next few days visiting our son two hours a day at the orphanage (without any interpretation!) and then we will return to Kyiv early next week to start this same process with our daughter. And while we are going through these motions with our daughter, our application to adopt our son will be processed and we will receive a court date. And the same thing will happen with our daughter. It’s kinda crazy and sometime a bit too much to think about! So we are day-by-day for now! It’s all good…
As for our time with our son today, it was all about either the iPad or games on the laptop and cookies (they have amazing deserts here!). He’s all boy! He found every “action” game on the laptop that we didn’t even know we had! And when I asked what subjects he liked in school he shook his head and said “sports”.
To sum up where we are with him at this point all I can say is that I hope our he is not disappointed the day he realizes that having American parents means more than just being provided a vast array of games and treats (he asked us to bring him chocolate and Coke!). But for now, we are content with how we are building our relationship with him. He welcomes our hugs and attention. When we asked how school was today, he said he didn’t go because he was waiting for his Momma & Poppa. He likely has no idea what loving parents and family means…
We went to the market and enjoyed a cafeteria style meal for less than $6.00 for both of us and we bought groceries to prepare all of our meals in the apartment for the next three or four days for about $40. So that’s the upside of life in Ukraine!
Everyone has been very friendly and helpful. For the most part we feel safe & welcome here. The locals are quick to help, especially if you make an effort to speak to them in their language.
We have been blessed by every wonderful part of this journey (except the internet thing!)

Thursday, April 7, 2011

Toto, We are NOT in Kyiv Anymore

The second leg of our wild & crazy adventure started yesterday afternoon when we packed up all of our stuff and headed down to meet our facilitor to go to the SDA to pick our our referral that we requested the day before. While we were still in the apartment we could see there was a crowd gather in front of our apartment building which was unusual (like we've been here long enough to know what is "unusual", but our apartment building entrance is sort of in an alley. So people don't general come this way without a purpose. Turns out they were actors and movie- (or TV or commercial) making people. They filmed a scene a few times and left. No big deal - if you actually knew what was going on but at first it was a bit unnerving!

Our visit to the SDA was swift. We entered through the same side doors but this time passed by the staircase into this tiny area where there was a desk and a woman issuing referrals from the day before. There was no waiting; only showed our passports, signed our names, and said spaseeba. Then we enjoyed a very nice meal with our facilitator and other friends from the US who also picked up their referral. After dinner is when we parted ways with our American friends as we were all taking a train but to different places and we had different drivers to the train station.

We arrived at the train station with no time to spare. I could only describe the traffic scene at choas (and I pursposefully left our the word "organized").

The train was very nice and thanks to my lil' motion sickness patch, I actually enjoyed some sleep! And some "brewed" koyfee. The best part about the train, NO SMOKING!

When I asked our facilitator how we would know when it was time to get off of the train, he said it is the last stop. Like we'll know? We did. I wish I could tell you where we were at that point, but I don't know! I also had asked our facilitator how we would know who our driver was who was to meet us at our train destination. He said the driver would recognize us. Hmmmm...if I had to guess I would imagine his description of us to the driver was as brief as short red hair! Our driver spotted us immediately and I greeted him with my best do-bra-ye-oosta (good morning) & he seemed to appreciate my efforts. He's a very kind man but seems to speak about as much English as I do Russian!

We had a 2-hour car ride to our final destination. The landscape was mostly flat & littered and the road was mostly potholed and uneven. Thanks again, to my motion sickness patch. I surely would have not enjoyed myself nearly as much (in fact, I might have died) as we weaved, bounce, and bobbled the entire way!

I can't tell you how many buildings I saw (some of the 10-stories high or more) there were complete shells; no windows, no nothing. It was impossible to tell if the buildings were on their way up or their way down. And they seemed to be everywhere! I don't get it.... And the housing is like nothing we are accustomed either. Everything looks rundown and overgrown with bare vines.

There are no leaves yet on the trees. Maybe while we are here? Most likely yes considering how loooong we will be here! We are hoping that by the end of our trip we will no longer need our coats and can leave them with one of the orphanages.

Our driver had the radio on while we were in the car and most of the songs and talking were in Russian or Ukrainian. But every so often you would hear something in English. Oh, and Flashdance came on (the original English version). It took all I had not to sing along! But now you can see how turning off your brain isn't possible! And to that end, it occured to me today that in the very old country, it is not uncommon to see things in English. Yet in our very young country, you would never see anything in Russian. Made me realize how strong of an influence our little baby country has made on the world! Whether you like the Obama administration (or the ones before him), our democratic checks and balances really do work.

Upon arrival to our destination, we meet our facilitator briefly (she has court today with another family from the US adopting from our son's orphanage) and our driver to us to McDonalds for breakfast. So here we are trying to figure out how we are going to order. It would have been easy if they had numbered combos like we do in the US. We could have just held up the number of fingers corresponding to the combo meal we wanted. But no numbered combos. So Richard's looking like he'll just go hungry & I approach the counter flashing my Russian dictionary & start pointing at the overhead pictures only to be handed a picture menu! Yay, we will eat afterall!

Our drived then escourted us to our apartment which we will call home for the next 5 or so days. It is a bit larger than our apartment in Kyiv but not quiet as nice. No matter...we are keeping our eye on the prize!

I've taken lots of pictures to bring my words to life but I don't think my internet connectio will support me uploading the photos. :(

We are told that in about three hours, we will be picked up. I am not sure if we have business to tend to first or if we will go directly to the orphanage to meet out son. Either way, we're anxious and excited to meet him. We have no idea if he has been informed about us and if so, what he has been told. Should be interesting! :)

We've waited for this day for a long time.........

Tuesday, April 5, 2011

Into the Great Unknown

I realized two things I didn't include after I posted the last update. It's funny; not much goes on but then when it does it's pretty fast & furious and frought with lots of emotion. It's hard to soak it all in!

During our appointment today we were given a breif description of our kids. We were told that our son is energetic & polite. No surprise there as this is what we had already heard. We were told that our daughter is SHY (Whut?!) and I can't remember exactly how she phrased it (I'll try to remember to ask again when we go back) but basically our daughter says whatever comes to mind. Well, they got one out two right!

Also, after we pick up our referral tomorrow afternoon we will be boarding an overnight train. Unless I pick up an air card before we leave Kiev, I will be without internet for a while. But we'll be back in touch as soon as we can!

Yes, it's 2am here. Yes, epic sleep failure (took a hard nap today that must have done me in). We're both not yet adjusted to the time difference. And it's weird...you would think that not being able to communicate with anyone would be understimulationg but it's the exact opposite. I hear & see everything that is unfamiliar and my brain still tries to figure it out. I guess it's just my curious nature...Or some other kind of disorder that is unique to me (just like all the other unique disorders only I seem to be afflicted by).

Anyway, I will try to post an update Thursday after we meet our son!!!!!!!!

SDA Referral for Our Son

We just returned from our SDA appointment. We got brief medical infromation on both kids; nothing of which was concerning. Both kid's files had 2 pictures each; this is how we know they are the right kids! We were a little concerned about recognizing our son because we've never met him. But there was no issue. The pictures they showed us were of the same kid in other pictures we have been shown of him.

We will return to the same place tomorrow between 4:00 and 5:00 PM to pick up our referral for our son and will immediately board a trip to his region.

These are the metal gates leading to the side door that we went through for our SDA appointment.


This is the actual door we went through. It's a door to a stairwell.


This is the front door of the building. If you look closely you can see (in English) "Ministry of Ukraine for Family, Youth, and Sports. This is the division of the government that oversees adoptions.

 These are some photos of the area sourrounding the SDA building. I was a fairly nice & quaint (as quaint goes in Kiev!) area with street vendors and some shops.
 This is just one of those "puzzlement" things. It's a drain downspout with what appears to be electicral wires in it.




This one's for my Mom. It's an art supply store.

On the backside of this church is the SDA building and entrance we passed through for our appointment.


Another puzzlement picture... This is in the middle of the road. It's aslo a fine example of their cobblestone roads. When I say cobblestone, I don't mean the manmade, manufactured kind.


Note: As I'm typing this I realize my zipper is down. Good day so far!!!

Monday, April 4, 2011

A Few Pictures I Meant to Include in the Previous Post

This is our kitchen. It's almost identical to mine @ home!

This is or living room.

There are several of the gold domed churches. I think they are Orthodox but I'm not sure. The only map I have is in Russian. We're going to take a walking tour tomorrow. Hopefully it's in English!

This is a common sight (building facade crumbling wires & pipes everywhere, & AC units. To be fair, there are some pretty buildings and I will take pictures & post them too.

Show me the money

Note: This is a long post with nothing new to say about the kids. Thought I would mention that in case you wanted to skip this one!
So…Richard and I both got detained by TSA in the Raleigh-Durham airport. The full body scanner revealed we were both wearing money belts. Mind you, there is nothing illegal (nor dangerous to other passengers – which is, as I understand it, the purpose of airport security) about a money belt. In terms of air travel safety, a money belt is no different than a wallet. So the issue was about the amount of money (even though they never asked me how much money I had nor did they count it themselves) not the belt itself, but it was because of the belt that the money was discovered by TSA. So the simple preventative measure here would have been to put our money belts in our backpacks and put them through the conveyor where it would not have been detected. Had it ever occurred to us that RDU TSA (to clarify, I do mean TSA, not customs) would have an issue with the amount of cash we had (I am not aware of a restriction on how much money you can travel with domestically – which @ this point, no one had even asked for my itinerary or asked me where I was going – but if they had, I was going to DC).  None-the-less, as all of this is going down @ RDU, TSA is intentionally vague about their screening processes for the purposes of keeping the average criminal from plotting some tricky attack. But by default, the average do-gooder such as myself occasionally gets erroneously lumped into the “bad people” group even though I’m nowhere near smart enough to be included in that group! Your average (or even below average) criminal would likely know better than to wear a money belt through a full body scanner if the money wasn’t on the up-and-up. But since my money is on the up-and-up, I was not concerned about my money being detected. I thought it would be an acknowledgement that I had on a money belt, maybe I would have to prove that it was indeed only money (and nothing dangerous), and I’d be on my way. RDU TSA having an issue with the amount of money I am carrying never occurred to me! So next time, I will be more criminal minded and hide the money just like TSA suggested!
The whole very intense debacle went on for probably 30 minutes. It was all very confusing. No one would really tell us what they were doing nor would they tell us what they considered us to have done wrong – and believe me, I asked! We provided every piece of information they asked for including our passports, my driver license (which I realized later I was not obligated to provide because I had already provided my passport and I am not required to travel with my driver license), and our original I-171H which is Homeland Security’s approval of us to adopt Ukrainian children as proof of why we had the money. And still, I didn’t understand what was going on as we stood there while they wrote down all of the information they could about us (on a legal pad) and made “phone calls”.

A little advice for those of you who may come after us, take the wrapper from the bank off of your money. Having the wrapper on your money gives the amount away at one glance. Also, look into bringing some of the money in thousand dollar bills. I don’t know if this is feasible, but it makes your stack look smaller.
I have to admit that I’ve always been confused about the money thing . The maximum amount has always been unclear to me (US vs Euro – I was told it was Euros which means in US dollars it is more – but with exchange rates changing all of the time, how do you know how many US dollars a Euro translates to?). Plus, we could never find the Euro thing in writing. But I felt confident in my understanding that the money was to be declared to customs upon entry into Ukraine; not to security upon exiting the US. And while the TSA screeners wouldn’t directly respond to our questions about what we had done wrong, I did get the impression we should have already declared the money (to whom I do not know) but I still don’t know for sure… because in the end, we did not declare the money in RDU and they let us go.
In general, it was a bad experience that didn’t need to happen. It was crazy. And disturbing. And boy did it set the tone for our anxiety levels as we passed through customs in Ukraine (more about that in a minute). And all that for what? There never was any increased risk to anyone!
So with our anxiety levels heightened, you can imagine my panic when during our 6 hour layover in DC, a bunch of authorities showed up with a dog in our boarding area. I’m thinking “What is wrong with these people? I haven’t done anything wrong! It’s *my* money and I’m a good person trying to do something good!” You know, all kinds of stuff goes through your head! But they weren’t for me. Someone had left an empty backpack one row over from us in the boarding area. I can tell you that paranoia is all consuming when it kicks in…
The rest of the trip was uneventful. We had an overnight flight to Frankfurt but didn’t get any sleep. Note: when you’re seated in the last row of the plane and they tell you your seat reclines, they mean just a little but not enough to make a difference L). But the good news is we got through DC and Frankfurt without any additional attention to our money belts.
In the mean time, we do a little more research about the money limit and only find information that raises our anxiety levels. Our prayers were that we would get through Ukraine customs without being asked to count our money (because by this point, we realize we’re pretty sure we have too much). We do realize that no one else that we know of who has come before us has had to count their money @ customs in Ukraine, but then, no one else had the issue we did @ RDU. So we’re feeling like green martians and not the least bit confident that we wouldn’t have another “encounter”.
Passing through Passport Control in Ukraine was slow but otherwise painless. We quickly & easily located all three pieces of our luggage (so two huge Yays! We are on the ground safely in Kiev and we have all our luggage!). The only remaining obstacle is passing through customs with our money which is, despite considering lots of alternatives, still in our money belts on our person. We fill out the declaration forms and indicate we have the maximum amount of money we can bring into the country (and Ima tell ya’, we had more than we declared but what do you do?!). And we pray nothing happens that would reveal our lil’ “accounting” error. So you can imagine when the customs agent looks at my forms and says to me (while emphatically nodding his head up & down) “You each have ten thousand US dollars?”, I emphatically nod and reply “YES”! Because, well, we do… And I emphatically nod at Richard who emphatically nods also. (It was kinda like doing “the wave” but in a more bobble head way!) We were being extended some much needed grace. Or maybe they simply do not care. Either way, I’ll take it! And for that, Mr. Bobble Head Customs Man, I will spend all of my money (even the money I didn’t tell you about) in your lovely country!! When Mr. Bobble Head Customs Man hands us back our declaration forms & dismisses us, we all but run toward the exit door! And just on the other side of the exit door is the “I’ve got you from here” face of my facilitator! Ahhh…such relief!!
Our facilitator drove us to our apartment & helped us get settled in. The apartment is adequate in size but the décor and some of the functionality is not what we are accustomed. I guess it’s part of the charm… More importantly, it works for us for the next few days!
A bit about Kiev if you’ve never been here, it’s a large city (3 or 4 million people). Most of the buildings appear to be very old and most are not charming at all. There are some nice architectural details on most of the building but the paint colors aren’t really appealing and paint is peeling and bricks are crumbling. There are AC units or venting or something sticking out of windows and sides of building. And there are fire escapes everywhere. And there are electrical wires (they would NEVER meet US building codes – they totally scream “FIRE”!) and there are water & gas pipes sticking out of everywhere. None of this in-and-of-itself makes the buildings unappealing but, all of things are done to the buildings with such randomness. Fire escapes aren’t always ugly (or even noticeable) if they are installed properly and are consistent throughout the same building. That’s not the case here. It is not like the US where we go to great effort to build our utilities into the structure so they cannot be seen. Also, repairs or additions to building (such as awning or entry ways) are not well integrated into the building and ultimately takes away from the appearance. The long & the short of it is the city (at least what I’ve seen so far) lacks charm and, unfortunately, it is quite dirty. But it does feel fairly safe. Oh, and there’s plenty of parking. Parking on the sidewalks is pretty common and there do not appear to be parking police here they way we are used to in the US.
There is an entry door to our apartment building that has a code to enter. We don’t know the code, so we have to ask the “concierge” (I think that word has a different meaning here – or at least, it does in our apartment building!) let us in. She has this tiny little room right inside the building and it appears as though it’s where she lives! I usually say a few words to her in English and she just nods (am I in bobble head land?). Maybe I’ll figure out how to say something polite to her in Russian.
Once you enter the building, there is an elevator. It’s tiny and scary (I’ll take a picture but I’m just sure it won’t do that real thing justice!). Three people can get in the elevator at one time but not without touching each other. We’re only on the third floor and prefer the steps anyway. About the steps, I can easily see how our friend fell and injured herself while she was here. Every surface you walk on is uneven. There are wooden platforms here & there that I guess are an effort to reduce the unevenness of some places, but they create their own inherent risk! The boards are sometime rotted. Many of them have gaps between them and most of them have loosened up and are unstable. Even inside the apartment, transitions from one type of flooring to another (and there are several of these) are not level. Maybe I could appreciate Kiev a little more if I could look up instead of down all the time!
The door to our apartment is doubled (not as in, if you open them both you have a wide entry, but as in you have to open them both to pass through the doorway). The exterior (to the hallway) door is wrapped in black leather (probably faux) and has two locks. They are a bit hard to use. I’ll take a picture of the key and post it. It’s quite “primitive”!
We’ve eaten at two restaurants in Kiev. The first one was O’Briens, an Irish pub (I’m easing my way into the Ukrainian culture!) and the second was called Double Coffee. They both had menus in English and the staff spoke enough English to accommodate us during our dining experiences.
For me this is a HUGE negative; there is cigarette smoking EVERYWHERE here. You simply cannot avoid it the way you can in the US. There is smoking in all restaurants. It truly ruins a good meal. It’s just gross… So we bought ham & cheese & bread to make sandwiches but couldn’t find the mayo in the market. We saw Nutella (they had some other versions of Nutella that were “swirled” – I don’t know what was swirled in but it looks yummy!) but indeed, no peanut butter!
The women in Kiev dress mostly in black, super mini mini-skirts and stiletto heeled boots. It is mind boggling when you consider that all of the sidewalks are either broken and uneven or they are cobblestone and broken. I’ve also seen quite a few women wearing shorts with pantyhose (who does that?!) and boots.
It’s still cold here, not frigid but still very chilly.
Our first night here neither of us slept all that well despite being exhausted. We went to bed really early (I’m not sure but it was no later than 8:00) and I woke up @ 10:00. Of course I was looking at EDT, so initially I thought it was 3:00 but then I saw the “PM” and realized I had to add 7 hours.  The building we are in has radiant heat (I’m not sure who controls the temp – it’s very warm though!) and it’s quite noisy and VERY DRY. So that, coupled with a VERY FIRM bed, made it hard for us to get the rest we are so desperate for L. Maybe tonight…
Our SDA appointment is tomorrow, Tuesday, April 5th @ 10:00am. We will request a referral to go to the orphanage to meet our son. We’ll probably also get to find out a little more about our daughter too but we will have to come back to Kiev to actually get a referral to go to her orphanage. Referrals aren’t ready to be picked up until the end of the following day. So Wednesday afternoon we’ll pick up or referral and get on the overnight train to his orphanage to meet him on Thursday!